Staten Island Cops Murder Unarmed Black Man For Breaking Up A Street Fight! (Video)
by Tj Sotomayor July 18, 2014 105 commentsIts Time For War!!!
By: Tommy “Tj” Sotomayor
So, yesterday in a story that I did about a widow who said that she wished her husband could have killed more cops before they killed him, I stated how out of line the woman was and how no innocent cop deserves to be shot. Well, I still believe that no innocent person deserves to be harmed or killed but I have to say that after seeing what I saw today, I think it is time that the cops grieve just like everyone else until they start to call out their own!
Police in black neighborhood have had the ability to rob, beat, rape and kill blacks with little to no charges or penalties ever coming their way. Even when cops are charged with things it usually either never sticks or their jail time is minimal at best.
Today I saw one of the most distrubing videos ever where a black man, Eric Garner, was choked and murdered in front of the whole world and caught on video. The hardest thing about watching this video, is seing and hearing this man beg and plead for his life as it is unceremoniously taken away from him! Watch!
So 100000 black men, So coon train engineers, so negros on the internet along with lame b*tches calling for my death, where is your outrage at these white cops constantly slaughtering your black a$$es out in the middle of the street? Where are the people releasing the cops information and telling people that he is going to be at this location like some lame did me when I was in Chicago? Where are the blacks making youtube videos talking about what needs to be done to these cops?
Strangely enough, these so called problacks never do anything to shake the apple cart of racism. They speak about it in general but when it comes to me they get very specific but not on this issue. It takes me, THE COON, to come out and say NO MORE!
This brother Eric died on Thursday saying the same thing that Today is the day he takes a stand and on that day he lost his life and no one has done anything to reclaim it. What can be done now? Where is the outrage damn it? Shouldnt the cops be afraid to walk the streets today until someone is arrested?
You negros are weak!!! The only people you threaten is each other. My words on line are so bad that people claim I needed to be killed, my girlfriend needs to be killed, my past needs to be exposed, my address needs to be leaked, my accounts need to be trolled but these people who are actually killing you, you have nothing to say to them or about them!
To the white cops, until you come out and totally distance yourself from the actions of the cops in this story then what we need to do as blacks is put targets on the heads of all of you! Either let us know that you value our lives or we will let you know in no uncertain terms that we dont value yours!
Oh & P.S. White people please believe, it aint just blacks they doing this to, they will be targeting you too believe that so dont just think its a problem we will have to deal with!
Staten Island man dies after NYPD cop puts him in chokehold — SEE THE VIDEO
“When I kissed my husband this morning, I never thought it would be for the last time,” Garner’s wife, Esaw, told the Daily News.
She got no details from police until after she had gone to the hospital to identify his body, she said.
An asthmatic Staten Island dad died Thursday after a cop put him in a chokehold and other officers appeared to slam his head against the sidewalk, according to video of the incident.
“I saw him with his eyes wide open and I said, ‘Babe, don’t leave me, I need you.’ But he was already gone,” she said.
A family friend searching for her in the hospital ran into detectives from the NYPD’s Internal Affairs Division. The friend put them on the phone with her, the grieving widow said.
She spoke with a Detective Howard, who told her, “I’m sorry for your loss,” she said. He said his office was involved “because there is wrongdoing,” she said.
Police officials said Garner had a history of arrests for selling untaxed cigarettes. Cops said they observed him selling his wares Thursday on Bay St. and moved in for an arrest.
Within moments Garner, a married father of six children with two grandchildren, ceased struggling and appeared to become unconscious as police called paramedics to the scene.
An NYPD spokesman would only say the man “was being placed in custody, went into cardiac arrest and died” at Richmond University Medical Center.
But Esaw Garner and other family members said it was a trumped up claim.
“They’re covering their asses, he was breaking up a fight. They harassed and harassed my husband until they killed him,” she said. Garner’s family said he didn’t have any cigarettes on him or in his car at the time of his death.
She said she pleaded with police at the hospital to tell her what happened, but they brushed her off.
“They wouldn’t tell me anything,” she said.
Officials confirmed that NYPD Internal Affairs officers launched an investigation Thursday night.
Records show Garner was due in court in October on three Staten Island cases, including charges of pot possession and possession or selling untaxed cigarettes.
Esaw Garner said her husband was unable to work because he suffered from a host of ailments, including chronic asthma, diabetes and sleep apnea.
Garner’s mother, Gwen Carr, 65, added, “I want justice.”
Police said Garner was not armed.
The Staten Island resident was sitting in front of Bay Beauty on Bay St. and Victory Blvd. just before 5 p.m. when two plainclothes cops began questioning him about selling untaxed cigarettes, a video obtained by the Daily News shows.
“I didn’t do s—!” the 6-foot-4 Garner, wearing a sweaty T-shirt and khaki shorts, told the officers from the 120th Precinct when they approached him. “I was just minding my own business.
“Every time you see me you want to mess with me. I’m tired of it. It stops today!” he yelled.
ACQUIRED BY: TOMAS E. GASTON’He’s the nicest guy. I can’t believe what I saw. That’s no way to do an arrest,’ said Douglas, 50, about Garner. Douglas would only give his first name.Ramsey Orta, 22, who shot the video, tried to intervene, telling the cops his friend had just broken up a fight between three men and had not been selling cigarettes.
But when backup uniformed officers arrived, the cops moved in to cuff Garner, the video shows.
“Don’t touch me, please,” he said.
When Garner refused orders to put his hands behind his back, one of the plainclothes cops, wearing a green T-shirt with a yellow No. 99 on the back, got behind him and put him in a chokehold, the footage shows.
A struggle ensued as three uniformed officers joined in on the arrest, knocking the man to the ground.
He screamed, “I can’t breathe!” six times before he went silent and paramedics were called.
“They jumped him and they were choking him. He was foaming at the mouth,” Orta told The News. “And that’s it, he was done. The cops were saying, ‘No, he’s OK, he’s OK.” He wasn’t OK.”
“They were choking him. He kept saying, ‘I can’t breathe, I can’t breathe! Get off of me, get off of me!’ and I didn’t hear any more talking after that,” said witness Valencia Griffin, 50, of Staten Island. “He died right there.”
Another witness, who would only give his first name, Douglas, said he’d known Garner for four years.
“He’s a very big man, very intimidating, but he’s just a big teddy bear,” said Douglas, 50. “He’s the nicest guy. I can’t believe what I saw. That’s no way to do an arrest.”
At the video’s end, the cop who had choke-held Garner can be seen staring at the camera that was videotaping him.
“This had nothing to do with the fight, this had something to do with something else,” the cop said, and walked away.
A law enforcement source said the incident was troubling.
“A guy is dead in our custody. That is always a potential problem,” the source said.
With Patrick McCarron and Bill Hutchinson
UPDATE: The Staten Island district attorney is investigating the shocking death of a 400-pound asthmatic dad after a city cop placed him in a chokehold.
Eric Garner, 43, died Thursday after a sidewalk takedown by five NYPD officers making an arrest outside a Tompkinsville beauty parlor.
“My office is working along with the NYPD to do a complete and thorough investigation into the circumstances surrounding Mr. Garner’s death,” said District Attorney Daniel M. Donovan Jr. in a Friday statement.
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Jump into a conversationDidn’t any of the cops have a TASER?
I think he may have had a heart attack. a taser would have had the same result.
this is really sad. tragic accident.
u are a house nigger raider
Unfortunately a taser probably would have had the same affect. We cannot overlook the fact that this man was 400 lbs, chronic asthmatic, and diabetic. A shock to his nervous system would be the last thing he needed. It’s a shitty way to go, but his health issued had him halfway there. RIP Eric Garner
as sad as this is, it looks more like an accident than murder.
but if Tommy wants to advocate war, let him fight on the front lines.
he is asking black people to commit murder and to die. that’s not right.
us mexicans will just sit back, watch and enjoy the show.
we will never support a black cause again.
what cause have they fought along side blacks I know the Puerto Ricans the Cubans the Dominicans they were front line I don’t know of any Mexicans fighting with blacks
And if I were Mexican I wouldn’t fight with blacks, because blacks always pick the wrong cause.
Mexicans do fight though. They started the Mexican-American war, they just lost. Mexicans are the only non white people that got automatic citizenship when white people took their land and redrew the borders. Not Indians nor blacks battled like Mexicans…let the history books tell it. I know they gave us hell in Texas. I went to the Alamo this weekend.
nostraquarius who fought for the Mexicans the males or the females (and what is a Mexican really other then being those three stated races combined )
Meekodk I don’t know what the hell a Mexican is made of, I just wanted to share my new knowledge from my Alamo trip, lol. But let me tell you they don’t speak on Mexican’t when the white folks tell those stories.
so do many blacks and Indians
Mexican isn’t a race. There are many different indian tribes that were in what is now Mexico and central America. There are many different levels of mixed race (Spaniards and different tribes of natives). The only pure races anymore are Black Africans, White Nordics, Arabs and Hebrews. Very few black tribes are pure race, very few white nordics are pure race, Arabs are at least half mixed, and Hebrews are almost half mixed. Asians are largely mixed, the turks from turkey in the time of Christ migrated east and are the small headed Russians now, who killed the nordic ruling class in eastern Europe during the Bolshevik revolution. We are mostly mixed. Even me, and I am a blond haired blue eyed partial nordic, am a mutt. Trying to divide mankind by race is time wasted. Mankind is divided by liberty and tyranny, and by the weak and the powerful, on almost all levels.
Texas and California didnt wantt o be part of mexico. mexico started a war which they lost, andnt hen we BOUGHT the land. we didn’t “steal” it
Facts, left out of revisionist history, become conspiracy theories, which those that studied revisionist history won’t believe even if you can show proof.
If you’re in a CHOKE HOLD and are able to say, “I CAN’T BREATHE!’ how the hell can you say this was an accident or that he had a heart attack? This was (as I’ve always called it) ‘Selective Execution’.
Mexican huh? Take yourself to Arizona, Texas, California or any of those Southern Border states. You don’t need to support any Black Causes… because you have your own. If you’re not being killed in like manner, you’re being sent back to Mexico… by Immigrants (American Immigrants).
A ridiculous argument. National sovereigns all have borders and control who can immigrate and have say over what those conditions are. Note the Marine in a Mexican jail. That our country (the United States of America, a sovereign nation) has allowed free entry to over 60 million Mexican national’s (from another sovereign nation) to enter the US and thrive over the last 40 years, is in no way a guarantee that, now that the practice has become a destructive force on the nation, that the citizens of this land, can continue to accept the flood of foreign national’s into this country. Those Mexican nationals who have entered the country illegally, have put extreme pressure on the poorest level of the labor market, blue collar workers, and have been used by those on the top of the stack to lower the standard of living, of all regular workers in this country. Don’t confuse kindness of the population with stupidity. We KNOW we’ve been screwed by the big wheels to the benefit of foreign nationals.
@Will – That wasn’t a ridiculous argument. The issue of Citizenship/ Immigration is very real for all Latinos in this country. So much so, that in the past 5 years alone, more state laws have been created (just for them) than ever before.
Still, I’m not here to argue the validity of my comments on Immigration or any Social-Political ideals.
Eric Garner was murdered. It was not accidental. It may be, that this generation of Black men needs their own ‘Reality Checks’ to begin to understand what is happening to them. It is not enough for a few to get angry or even hundreds to cry foul. It is not enough that this generation has placed so much trust in Social Media that they’ve forgotten how to speak to each other… that a message of truth can’t be shared properly.
Every generation has to face its own demons… otherwise, the value of life is left in the hands of the ones who hate the most.
Sry William, I can only assume that I had two pages open and replied to another post. My response makes sense in the right context and zero sense when fit into this thread. Again, I am sorry.
Will.
Respect
If it was you would this still be an accidental death?
Cops “accidentally” kill black folks all the time according to your logic. And if you don’t wanna support black causes then get the fuck off of Tommy’s page then. We don’t need you mexicans support. You people have your own problem with dealing with the white man. Don’t worry about us.
Cops kill all races of Americans constantly, with no consequences. Recently, a disabled dude in a wheel chair was shot, because he had a knife. What did they think he was going to do? Jump out of the chair and charge them down with it? They are thuggish because they are trained to be afraid of Americans. Watching this video, the victim, other than being a mountain of a man, was not threatening whatsoever. That a potentially lethal chokehold was (indiscriminately) applied, for reasons that look to me like “I have to prove my authority over this big guy”, will be said to be ok, “because he followed his training”. The only conclusion is that we citizens need to change laws to make the indiscriminate killing of citizens by police officers a specific crime with heavy penalties. States differ but in Oregon where I live we have a referendum system where citizens can through the petition process, get bills on the ballot. I doubt that if Illinois has such a system, that there would be a bit of trouble to get signatures, and get it passed. First step, find a sympathetic lawyer to draft the bill. That is the only way to get police training and dept. rules wound back to be consistent with the laws that the rest of us are subject to. Someone, talk to your local charity case legal team.
I’m light skinned. I’m going to have to roll with y’all on this one ese.
I guess you really didn’t hear or understand what he said… Damn shame you don’t understand
RAIDERFAN… WATCH YOUR MOUTH ON MY WEBSITE.. IF YOU DIDNT PAY THEN DONT SAY SH*T BECAUSE I WILL BLOCK YOU! I NEVER ASKED FOR YOU MOTHERF*CKERS TO HELP ME WITH ANY DAMN THING.. EVER SEE ME CALL OUT FOR MEXICAN HELP?? NOPE SO SHUT UP!
Exactly
Lol killing cops…. Why don’t you go kill one first. Didn’t think so…
Whites are Esua (Bible) and they HATE (some more then others) Israel
(black people) Genesis 27:41-42… God will do away with Esau/Edom and
take the power from Esau soon. Obadiah 1:9-10… Wake up Israel. Repent
to God and come under the law of God and then God will see your pain.
Psalm 27:3… The Bible is for Israel (Black people..) Revelation
1:14-15… Matthew 15:24…
So when the chief comes up to talk,
he starts off by saying how evil, bad… this area is to set up the
scene for some to say, “well it is a evil, bad.. area, you know!” This
is what Esau does make the issues and when people fall into them, well
they had it coming! The police should be given praise for even working
in this area with these evil, bad… “BLACK” people. Esau never wants to
tell the truth. They killed this man. Come back to God Israel(Black
people…)
what a joke. you don’t know anything about the bible.
Israel is not black. what an ignorant comment.. laughable… what a joke.
Okay. I’m not one to normally comment on posts, but I did cause this was too much. Can you not be rude with the dialog? Thanks
I will give you some facts to study. And the people who I’m going to inform you of are so called “Blacks”.
Song Of Solomon 1:7
Job 30:30
Acts 13:1
Jeremiah 14:2
Revelations 1:13-15
Daniel 10:5-6
So “Blacks: are not Israel/Jews?
Sir you are in err!
you’re quoting the bible?? with all due respect, read from Exodus or Leviticus and tell how good the bible is, don’t cherry pick it….just saying
What do you mean? So I can understand, cause most likely you were not taught right (no disrespect). Cause the Bible stays the same from start to end. I don’t cherry pick either. You get understanding from the Bible by precepts. Not just going to one verse and saying look, look!
no disrespect taken Sir, I was taught right, I grew up a catholic and an alter boy, did the whole 9 yards, but I had questions even back then, I read the Bible, that’s why I’m an Atheist, read Levitcus or Exodus or Deuteronmony and see how much evil is in those passages, you know like Slavery or Ethnic cleansing, etc..etc..
God judgement is fair! we are the clay! I’m just happy that I am a Jew a REAL Jew not the fake “white” Edomite Jew-****ISH***** Edomites!
They trying to make it hopeless for us. That’s the goal of the super rich and corporations. We gotta come together now, before it’s too late!
RIP Chris
WOW!!!!! I don’t even know where to go with this, this is so fucked up, I know one thing nothing will be done to the police officers involved, they’ll say they were doing their job and the man was resisting arrest yadda yadda yadda, the spin doctors are in the office right now
I grew up in an area and country where white folk and cops fucked with black people. The system did nothing about it but black men did and white folks stopped fucking with us because most of them are not that brave unless you make them so…I remember telling this white big idiot cop from Scotland that he better behave himself because black men in this area would cut his throat,….especially the older guys…One day almost like prophesy brothers waited for him and put a masonry hammer through his skull reduced him to a vegetable brain dead and dribbling like a baby…Nobody been charged with that act to this day..Why when men act like men, other men have to do the same in protecting that brother who did what needed to be done..They could have arrested every black guy in the entire borough nobody would ever give that brother up…Offer us anything..not going to happen.
now Tommy is calling for blacks to kill cops… and he is calling for them to go after cops families.
well if that is what he wants, let him do it first.
plus that other guy had walked up behind a cop like a chicken shit and mudered him…. this is an accident..
coon train is coming.
go back to momma and cry
Man take your fagotty ass, I’m rooting for a shitty team because I’m shitty, somewhere
all officers are warned about this choke hold during training advised against it this officer should be charged with murder
At least manslaughter, maybe murder II.
One day Americans will get tired of being pwned by midgets and fatties in uniform. Oh who am I kidding – the concepts of Pride and Courage are foreign to a people so thoroughly brainwashed. *shrug*
GO TO “EVERY 5TH” FACEBOOK PAGE…PROTEST POLICE BRUTALITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY…I STARTED DOING THE DENVER PROTEST EVERY 5TH OF THE MONTH. THIS HAS TO STOP!
Punk ass cops always looking for an excuse to fuck with black folks. Over some damn cigarettes? If dude said he was breaking up a fight they should take his word for it. He has witnesses. FUCK THE POLICE!
tommy i have been watching you since day one and i have never heard you talk like this!!
REAL FUCKING TALK!!!!
Yo, he gave his life trying to beat a cigarrete charge. Black men you have to pick your battles. If you are being harassesed use the media and write your local representatives.
I say this all the time learn how to fight the right fight all that lip service won’t do you any good.
“He has a long record of selling untaxed cigarettes….”
Of course, not paying the State’s taxes are cause to take the man’s life.
And this thing of cops killing people with chokeholds is nothing new. See City of Los Angeles v. Lyons. It’s a 1983 Supreme Court case in which a black man was beaten and choked during a traffic stop. Between 1975 and 1983, the police killed 12 black men with chokeholds. The Supreme Court found that the man had no reasonable fear that he would be stopped and choked out again, therefore the LAPD could not be barred from using the chokehold.
As for Tommy hoping the family sues the cops…here’s what’s going to happen: First off, the officers will be cleared of any wrongdoing. Then the family will sue and enter in the video as evidence. The city will then make a settlement deal (which won’t be paid out of the police funds, or, God-forbid, the police pension), and the family will be told to accept, otherwise, the judge will dismiss the case, or a jury of 12 suburbanite cop-suckers will clear the city of liability because they value LAW & ORDER over natural rights or a black man’s life.
People were mad at the white cheerleader for shooting animals in Africa. Where else but America can you hunt a 14-point Buck Negro as long as you buy a permit, I mean, get a badge? Will any of these good, Progressive white people get as outraged at the death of a black man on the streets of New York as they do about a rhino? Will they threaten to kill the cops? Will they put a bounty out for nude pictures of their wives/daughters? Will they start a petition to get them banned from New York? Probably not.
I am outraged about this man’s death after seeing it on video. It is top headline news all over the country and whites are becoming outraged. We are on your side, sick and tired of police brutality and civil rights violations.
The video clearly shows mechanical asphyxiation, choking, and failure to render emergency aid. They caused his death. I cannot stop crying from watching this video….just awful.
I keep telling you ALL, ask WHY then COMPLY. The street is not the place to fight the police 6-on-1. Eric case would have been thrown out later as they don’t have the person he allegedly sold the product to. However, I agree…F*CK the police.
Outstanding commentary, Mr. Sotomayor. The Bible calls for an eye for an eye.
That was to prove that revenge doesn’t work. Before Christ, where God’s love and grace was displayed to man, the Levitical law prescribed death sentences for many sins, to prove it doesn’t work. We are now at the end of this age. Hold to righteousness. Keep your self pure. Don’t fear man, who can only kill the body, fear God who can kill the body and cast your soul into hell.
oh also police are trained as first responders so why did none perform emergency CPR this man life could have been saved
They are not trained as first responders. It’s not even in their job description.
you are basing your information off a job description and i’m telling you based on my experience one I have been trained by NYC basic law enforcement and two I have sat in a NC first responders class with law enforcement …
79th precinct
Any cop that is inclined to use that potentially lethal choke to render a suspect into custody, should be Very proficient at CPR. That will become a bigger priority when officers are being arrested for manslaughter and murder II. Until then, it will be a bad decision, and a bad week for the poor officer..
get involved with second amendment issues and put the cops in their place.
Yeah because pulling a gun on a bunch of cops is an intelligent thing to do.
It’s horrible that this man died, but when will blacks learn that in a system that’s obviously corrupt that when you are told you are under arrest regardless of the bogus charges that you need to comply with the orders you are given. You fight the charges in court, not on the street.
You miss the point. How many fukkin times can I walk down the street with you fukking with me everyday… Let me give you an example. When I was living in Chicago, I had to drive to work everyday to Darien. I would take 79th street all the way out. I would go past this one fukkin town called justice. Every gottdamn day I got pulled over by the police. Seat belt on, Not driving fast, listening too actually the news. I use to tell my boss this everyday, and by him being a white guy never believed it til that one fukkin day I get pulled I called my boss and gave the cop my phone, told him to talk to my boss and tell him wtf I did wrong. Both these silly asses were on the phone with each other. Cop tells my boss there has been crime in the area (BS great town, hardly any crime shitty cops). My boss tells them every day you cause this man to be late for nothing. Please leave him alone. It kept going til I transferred to another job location….. So you have to be in the shoes of people to understand people. And how many fukkin times should I go to court to fight charges of BS….
It’s messed up that you would be harassed on a daily basis the way you were but you still missed my point. Yes you were stopped and harassed for no reason but you were not charged with any crime or you would have been arrested. If the same idiot cop tried to arrest you would you struggle with him or go with the flow & lawyer up? The choice is yours but you have to be accountable for your choices. PEACE
All I ask is why couldn’t they have issued him a ticket.
I agree with and sympathize your point Thomas. Once fuzz-ball tells you that you are under arrest, You will be arrested. As soon as you resist, they are going to beat the crap out of you until you submit. Right up to the point of murdering you on the sidewalk, like this big dude. Logic in the face of an extreme level of frustration is still the best way to go. If you put up a fight, they have authority to kill you on the spot. Take your pick. Note that I didn’t say that the correct response was descent or moral. It’s just the best response. I’m white, and I rarely get harassed since I got out of my thirties. I was regularly harassed as a young, long-haired, smart-mouthed twerp. I don’t envy the black race, especially young black men, your situation with law-enforcement harassment. Don’t be fooled into thinking that you can argue and fight your way out of an arrest when fuzz-ball has decided to arrest you. Tommy and many others are correct when they say ‘you are now living in a police state’. It’s true. If you notice, this isn’t entirely about race. White men are routinely killed for nothing by police officers, for doing anything that can be misconstrued as resisting arrest, with No consequences. It’s the new change, and there is no hope.
The only way to put fear into these cops is to take them to civil court and bleed the police of their funds. IT takes money though, that is why the rich don’t get the same amount of time as poor people do, they have lawyers and not public defenders.
If you do not have the money you will have to sit in jail on false charges. Then you will given a public defender who works with the state. The time to fight your charges is before you are arrested. Just last week I was handcuffed and placed in a police car because someone stole a sandwich and I fit the description, even though I was not in the vincinity. I threatened the cops, by saying I will have their badges and they threatened me with disorderly conduct which is coercion. Then they tried to search me for ID, then I refused the search because I had the right to and gave them my ID. I have all their badge numbers, but I do not have money for a lawyer to defend me. My only option is Internal Affairs which are the police also. The system is rigged against its citizens. The courts are rigged against you also. What we need in our community is more lawyers and more judges to defend us. We also need for these gangs in these streets to protect us instead of killing is also. The Bloods and the Crips were started for that very reason. We need to become more organized.
I am starting to learn that people do what they want to do rather than what’s in their best interest. If you cant afford legal representation for what a dirty cop does to you, the answer is to give him a green light to kill you? Good luck with that strategy, and as far as the gangs you speak of, they are just as much agents of the system as dirty cops. These gangs thrive off the destruction of their own people. Why do black men keep telling me their horror stories about their encounters with dirty cops, as if I dont have any stories of my own to tell. The difference is I chose to be a man on my own. I will work with others for the improvement of our people as a whole, but I will only put in work where the best decisions are considered. In my opinion confronting a dirty cop from a position of disadvantage is not the best decision. I noticed that you are still alive to tell your story, so either you took care of some dirty cops, or you’re just telling me what you wish someone else would do.
You confront a dirty cop as soon as you identify them as such. I’m not saying be violent, but stand up for your rights on the scene and don’t wait to get in court and beg for a public defender. I was let go because for one I didn’t do anything. And once I was let go I refused a search. And once they threatened my with disorderly conduct, I threatened them with coercion. The key is to not curse at all, speak intelligently and never use violence. Once they touch after you refuse a search, of course diffuse the situation, but if you don’t assert your rights they are going to take advantage of you and you are going to be sitting in a cell with no defense because you didn’t speak up before you were even arrested. You saying don’t assert your rights when you see a dirty cop, but once they charge you they are going to falsify a police report. You speak up when the cop approaches you and that camera and microphone is on so that judge hears it when he decides whether or not he is going to charge you or not. The key is not to get arrested in the first place. Cops know who the mess with, they mess with the people who don’t know their rights and don’t challenge them with their intellect on the scene. You give a cop the right to search your car and he might plant something on you. Don’t give them any slack because there are a lot of dirty cops. Being a cowards doesn’t always work.
Your last comment was on point! if you had listened to the show tommy did on this subject, I constantly made the exact same remarks you just made. Nothing wrong with standing up for your rights, but when you are told you are under arrest regardless of your rights, only a fool would fight with a dirty cop that is armed. This was the point of my original statement.
That is what I don’t get we know what they are going to do don’t give them a reason to do you dirty. You know they are punks hiding behind a badge waiting for and excuse. People need to understand they don’t have to play nice once you resist. If you’re not willing to go out like Christopher Dorner then just comply.
No you don’t you fight with both hands and feet..You don’t play the enemies games by reducing all your effort to his system…You collect intelligence on the cop and his family…Like the gay lobby in the UK who are the nastiest and one of the most effective groups in this country because they dont play..They will dig up shit on you and your family where you live, where you work or hang out and come for you with every thing they have, including using the courts….Cops laugh when you protest against the police service and can hide behind numbers..they are not so brave when you target them and their family…Completely different matter all together..You divide them don’t unite them…when their neighbours realise you are bringing the heat..even they will distance themselves and encourage them to move elsewhere..
Wow, life imitates art. I swear this is the scene of Do The Right Thing when Radio Raheem was choked out by the cops. Btw, this isn’t, nor will it be the last time this happened. NYPD is notorious for choking out brothers. Its sick.
I was thinking the same thing.
This happens like clockwork every year so now what ? let’s hem & haw like jackasses until the next episode, SMDH !
Nothing is going to be done, they’ll continue to do the same thing. Where are the so called Black leaders? We don’t here you Al, Jessie, Nation of Islam, NAACP. I can’t feel sorry for a cop dying in the line of duty, because I know somewhere his peers are doing something criminal to the citizens.
He kept saying he couldn’t breath….and 2 of them didnt even look like cops…not in uniform. wtf is up with that?? So sad. I want him to rest in peace AFTER he haunts the hell outta those pigs!!
I truly feel heartbroken over what has occurred, and although my skin is white I cannot relate to what it feels like when someone the same as you is being murdered amongst the public eye. But there is something that I feel we can all agree on, these acts of senseless violence must stop! And it starts with our community, the “minorities”, to secure a better future for our children we should have a better justice system where they don’t harass our neighbors, our brothers, fathers, mothers, sisters, etc. In this case here, this man deserves justice! So that not just his soul, but so that his family can have the peace that they deserve!
I know that this part of my point is a little off topic but I feel the need to say it anyway, I’m aiming to accomplish world peace in my future. It’s true that many people say it’s downright impossible, but I know that I can see it on the horizon! Right now I hear talks of people being killed on a daily basis, is it really that hard for people to come together and co-exist on this beautiful planet that we live on? Despite our past grievances, I think there must be some sort of ACTION that we have to take to de-flame racism and preserve the community quality of life. If we don’t start here, fighting to secure this mans justice, when will we do it for anyone else? Or for our loved ones? Or even ourselves?
When?
For once I am speechless. Seriously.
Wow! I love Tommy but your incitement to murder cops will get you charged and imprisoned. I understand your anger and i share but that was a crazy thing to say.
That cock suckin cop choking him out would have gotten a boot to the skull
This is horrible! Such a tragic and OUTRAGEOUS loss, poor man and his family… It is terrifying that apparently if you (discretion of a police officer) look “suspicious”, they can legally murder you. I don’t think they were planning to kill a poor man, but they still did it and need to be punished accordingly. Not every police action needs to be done with force.
They get away with it because we allow them to. When you have a biased organization investigating itself you get the results we get every time. We are the only race of people that don’t stick together. If that were a black cop chocking a white man there would be half of New York standing outside of the police station right now demanding justice from an outside organization.
Black men need to organize themselves and form a militia, we need to defend our neighborhoods from these white law life thugs and black gang-banger thugs. The reason this keep happening to us is because we don’t defend ours and retaliate. The white man understands one thing and that is POWER……
They get away with killing all races of citizens using the false argument that the officers followed their training (which is to use excessive force when a person tries to talk their way out of another arrest.) When the problem is that they are trained to do ‘whatever it takes, to go home’ after their shift, whether it is legal, moral or any other condition, and when the case is looked at by a DA, they check against dept policy, rather than law. Tommy is correct. This is a police state. Cops routinely kill citizens with very little provocation, All races, as long as the citizen is weak or poor.
Whites like me are outraged by this too and will demand justice right by your side! I will not stop speaking out about this atrocity! Blacks are not alone in their rage….I am sick and tired of black men being hurt and killed by the police. I hope you set it off! I hope his family sues and gets a billion dollars! I’m with you and I don’t even care that you don’t care. I’m still with you!
My understanding is that you had a bunch of mainly white, physically and socially inadequate men, who just so happened to be cops, they saw this big dude and wanted a piece of him. There was inevitably going to be some racism in the mix, usually happens with mainly white police/cops, the evidence is abundant! They went heavy on him, just to prove to themselves they could take out the biggest and boldest of the black community and the poor man died, God rest his soul…. These police officers, well, I have a feeling that my thoughts may very well be accurate, its sad, but true and yes, I have been at the other end of it, I have seen that look, I have heard the taunts and I have known police officers who have told me how bad racism is in the force. Just like Tommy says, and I agree totally, FUCK THE POLICE, FUCK THIS POLICE STATE AND FUCK OURSELVES FOR BEING SO DUM AND PRE-CONDITIONED TO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL.
Tommy, I may have disagreed with some the points you have made in the past, but I admire your honesty and courage to speak about issues that others choose not to. Do your thing buddy, you will make a difference and people will listen to you, just keep safe.
“My understanding is that you had a bunch of mainly white, physically and socially inadequate men, who just so happened to be cops, they saw this big dude and wanted a piece of him. There was inevitably going to be some racism in the mix”
Honestly HCS, Cops are TRAINED to respond like this in the academies. They hide the illegality of it with re-enforced pump jobs at the beginning of the shift, that remind all the young cops to be sure to “be safe” and “go home at night” as if they were soldiers going to battle.
This should never have happened and I am outraged.
Unfortunately this is a common occurrence Laura, it seems as though the police feel they can brutalise black people on a daily basis, with little fear of legal repercussions, in that black crime is so high, it acts as a veil for the police to further enforce brutality and commit murder in the majority of black communities throughout the United States. This man was not showing any aggression, he was merely demanding to know why he was being victimised. The chap that placed that choke hold is a disgusting rodent like human being. The whole group of officers at the scene and the paramedic should be imprisoned as accomplices to murder, if the victim was a non black individual with some authority, or a diplomat of some description I can assure you the majority of those officers would of lost their jobs and received criminal records at the very least. I feel this case should be used to make an example of all those involved and to fire a clear warning shot at the local authorities, all law abiding people, black, white, brown, yellow, whatever! Should be able to exercise justice against who ever commits a crime be that the police, the government, the army or any other institution that appears to commit horrific crimes against humanity. What I feel we should all be asking ourselves is, why and how does this type of police brutality always happen? and why does the police always seem to get away with it? Its the same with government policy as well, its nothing new. Why? Remember the Stephen Lawrence case in the UK? even worst and blatantly racist, yes the police tried to cover it all up, what did you expect, look it up.
This is bad, real bad. This man did not deserve to die at the hands of the NYPD. Our tax dollars are not intended for this non sense. Something needs to be done. It is time that these cops stop this militaristic paradigm in the way they deal with citizens! Where is the FBI on this one? Where is the NYSP on this one. The NYPD internal affairs should not investigate this. This is no different in how the blacks were treated down south in the 60’s and the FBI stepped in.
The FBI is all in for this thuggery. There is no-one in the justice dept. that will even Look at this.
Back in the 1960’s, we were much more a Christian nation than now. The evil that was perpetrated against black citizens was shown on TV and the whole nation erupted against segregation and the inhumane treatment of black protesters of segregation in the south. Now, we are used to seeing cops kill citizens. To watch the murder of the large fellow on the street, it was easy to see that he was no threat to the cops, the neighbors or the peace of the city. They have been trained to use brutality and enforce their authority with as much violence as they need to use no matter if they are threatened or not. Police state conditioning is complete. Go to the airport and watch as “American citizens” have their rights trampled in trade for a false sense of security. They get in line, and bow and scrape to a bunch of poorly trained, low-level thieves and thugs, so they can travel on commercial airlines. Most Americans don’t even feel violated by this. We have lost.
We need to do something Now.
We need to keep our heads down. If we don’t we’ll get them shot off one at a time. Blacks will lose a race-war in three weeks. TPTB are fomenting a race war. Be careful bro, or we’ll be in a full-out revolution that will result in a soviet style tyranny. That tyranny is felt closing it’s grip every day. It isn’t going to be blacks against whites or left against right or any other false narrative. It will be one side of the tracks against the other, and the thugs will pick off one of the groups at a time, till we are occupied, by thug agents of the ruling class. We are already about to the level of subjects, of the rulers in this country. When you start a war, and you are out-gunned, out-manned and already out maneuvered, like we are now, you lose quickly.
I could not stop crying watching this man die. I am with you in your fight for justice.
He should never have been treated this way in the first place, as soon as he said he couldn’t breathe, they should’ve back off, and as soon as he was not breathing they should have administered CPR. They let him die.
Cops fucking gangsters
As a white man let me say what happened is a tragedy and those responsible need to be punished to the full extent of the law and financial restitution needs to made to is family but this is not a white black issue- this is a police brutality issue and the victim could have been any color. Understand the police didn’t attack him because he was black- they got on him because he wouldn’t conform to their demands. In the video we can view the police having a calm conversation with him and they were instructing him to get cuffed. If he is innocent, he will have have his day in court and in the video he clearly states “NO- I will not be hand cuffed anymore- NO! This ends today” I assure you, if the victim were white, Hispanic or martian- the outcome would have been the same. You cannot challenge the police because you will lose, Dont matter what color you are. Truth is, growing up in my neighborhood, that situation played itself out every weekend with us Italian guys and we got the same treatment.
The real issue here is how the police deal with individuals who refuse to conform and submit to their demands. If the victim had simply cooperated, the unfortunate melee that followed would not have occurred. Now, let me be clear- I am not justifying what these police officers did- it is reprehensible and they need to be punished however, there is nothing in the video to suggest that they acted with malice, or depraved indifference or wanted to kill this man. What they did was wrong-but they did not want to kill the man. The issue here is a simple one and I can do the math; if 5 police officers stood around me and demanded i get cuffed- I’m going to let them cuff me. Im not going to try to stand them down because I will lose. Growing up in the Bronx, when the police came into out neighbored, the same tactics are used. The tough guys who wouldn’t get cuffed, got forcibly cuffed and those who complied with their demands got an easier go of it.
It is sad and unfortunate what occurred here but to suggest that somehow this happened because he was black was is ridiculous. It was an unfortunate and tragic accident.
Why would Pharaoh consider, even think to ask the Israelite, to kill the Israelite babies (Exodus 1:16-21). In those days, our people were not negro minded as they are today. Not enough of our people were being killed to the satisfaction of Pharaoh, so he issued a order to HIS people, every time a n__ger boy is born, throw that n__ger in the river (Alligators) (Exodus 1:22). Fast forward, today a new method has the cooperation of our people. The black woman has the inside job to break up the family and the man have the outside job with killing their brothers. This, plus orders, given by Pharaoh to HIS people, is like a choke hold on survival. We all know the outcome of Egypt. Likewise the time of the gentile rule is quickly coming to its closure (Luke 21:24). We must return to the laws and commandments of the bible to be worthy of protection (Luke 21:36). We need protection, because we were place in these condition by our ancestors for breaking the commandments of God(Deuteronomy 28:15). So how did we get to this land..Deuteronomy 28:68..on slave ships. We are to see our homeland again, which is Jerusalem( Galatians 4:26) not Africa (Exodus 11:7). We lost Jerusalem in 70AD because of disobedient . This was the beginning of our sorrow (Luke 21:20). This is how we ended up in the mountain of Africa (Luke 21:21) . From there we were sold by our enemy to our enemy among our enemies (Joel 3:3). Enough bad news. The gospel is the good news. Just like Deuteronomy 28:68, read, into Egypt again by way of ships. Egypt means house of bondage (slavery)(Deuteronomy 5:6), we forgot.. But in Joel 3:1; it read, bring in again the captivity, which is this captivity in Deuteronomy 28:68. Now as we can see throughout the news the building up tension that will lead to WW3. The why and where can now be understood in the boo of Joel 3. But because we have so many wicked brothers and sisters among our people, two-third of us will die by cremation from those thermal nuclear missiles (Zechariah 13:8). Only one-third will God save (Zechariah 13:9). Here is a little description Zechariah 14:12)
(2 Peter 3:10-14). This will only take one hour (Revelation 18:8-10). You may say, hey that said Babylon. That’s true, but you must understand this is spiritually the same because the attributes are the same. (Revelation 11:8)=(Genesis 19:5). Now, how was our lord crucified….(Job 9:24). How did they cover the faces of the judges.(2 Corinthian 11:4). And who was this new Jesus (Cesare Borgia) during the renaissance. This was not the Jesus of our ancestors. The true Jesus is described fully in OUR history book, the bible(Revelation 1:1-2)…..(Revelation 1:12-15). Now what color is brass….Now if you take this brass and burn it or anything else, what color will it be……….
We may as well read what color the angels are (Ezekiel 1:7)(Daniel 10:5-6). So black is beautiful after all. So that mean you have believe those lies that were told to you. Because the enemy had power(Revelation 13:2)(Revelation 20:2) (Matthews 4″8-10). Why were the slaves sing Swing Low Sweet Chariot…Planes had not been invented. They knew of the chariot of God that lead them out of Egypt (Exodus 13:21). Also Ezekiel saw a wheel in the middle of the wheel Ezekiel 1:16). This is how the one-third will be delivered by being beamed up into the chariots (1Thessalonian 4:16-18).
Micah 3:11
SO who are those in our homeland now (Revelation 2:9)
Yes, I know many are angry, so were many before you. But you were place in this condition by God
(Deuteronomy 28:68). You have no power, because God took it away. So if you don’t like what’s going on. The wise thing to do is to figure out how we got into this mess and do the opposite to get out. God may have cheated a little bit by given us the answer to this test. (2 chronicles 7:14).. What the hell; two-third of these Negros will die (Zechariah 13:8), because to read is acting white. Negro, who in the hell you think wrote this book. (Isaiah 34:16).
The answer key: Deuteronomy 28
I hate cops
ALTHOUGH THIS IS TRAGIC UR COMMENT ABOUT THE WOMEN WHO SAID SHE REGRETS HER HUSBAND NOT KILLING MORE COPS IS IRRESPONSIBLE! Giving more idiots like that the excuse to model their behaviour over ur comment ! This officer was there to protect the people inside this business. I’m sure if ur mother. Wife, kid or urself you would have wanted that officer to protect u and not that idiot which was harassing people in there! Learn to attack where the attack is due! Speak of these specific assholes who did this and not take ur rant where it doesn’t belong!
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